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Trike Asylum

 

Trike Asylum is a forum for discussion of trike issues, and its Steve Green’s blog about his travel and experiences with trikes.

 

Innesenti Trikes

This has got to be the Ferrari of trikes, but at $11,000 it should look sexy. I don’t know if it is a trike or a work of art, or both.  Check it out at Innesenti trikes.

 

Bruce’s trike carrier

Bruce has recently shared pictures of his trike carrier, which mounts in a hitch reciever, and carries two trikes.  Nice.

Below is the structure of the hitch receiver 2 trike rack.

An earlier rack held 2 trikes on a small car roof.

Another still is this 3 trike roof top carrier.

 

Index to Catrike Maintenance Posts

Catrike Maintenance and Repair topics are listed below. If I have a blog post on one of these topics, this contents list will serve as a link to each topic. These posts are authored by participants in the Catrike Message Board. Submissions of posts by any Catrike rider for inclusion here are welcomed. FYI, Catrikes are recumbent tricycles, with more information available at the Catrike Performance Trikes site.

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Basic Setup and Maintenance

Catrike Performance Trike Official 2004 Manual

Catrike Performance Trike Official 2005 Manual

Catrike Performance Trike Official 2006 Manual

Catrike Performance Trike Official 2007 Manual

Catrike Performance Trike Official 2009 Manual
Catrike Performance Trike Official 2010 Manual

removing the master link on the chain, and replacing it (page 18 of the above manual).
checklist of initial setup items
removing a front wheel
replacing front wheel bearings
replacing rear wheel bearings
adjusting rear derailer (link to Sheldon Brown’s instructions)
adjusting disk brakes (link to Park Tool page)
replacing disk brake pads (link to manufacturers or Park page)
Bruce’s advice on adjusting Avid BB7 brakes on Catrikes
installing front fenders
fixing a flat tire in front, rear wheels
installing teflon bushings in front headsets
cleaning a chain, and lubrication

Troubleshooting section:

rear wheel squeek: lube rubber weather seal
Bottom bracket not horizontal when trike is on flat surface: loosen boom clamp, reorients boom, or file guide tooth
after removing a front wheel, my brake pad rubs: adjust brakes, per this link:___________
shimmy in steering: check x, y, and Z, and purchase teflon bushings from catrike
chain routing
brake cable routing
shifter cable routing
setting toe on front wheels of a trike

Upgrades:

Facing the bottom bracket edges

Discussion of After market items and FAQs:

Jerry’s flags
Locking brake levers. These are great!
What is Schlump and other drives?
what would Schlump or Roloff give me over the stock gearing?
Terracyle idlers discussion
Super bright (240 lumens) flashlight for use as headlight, tail light
what size bearings does my (year) (model) Catrike use in the front, rear wheel?
where does one get replacement steel or ceramic bearings (link, or part number)
ceramic bearing vs other bearing experience
options for mounting both a light and a speedometer
list of all tools needed
chain guards, bash guards: Purely Custom, with Catrike Logo available, and many colors, Trice (Utah Trikes) Chain Guard Ring
- Cables: how to order replacements, how to cut to length, how to install end pieces on housing and cable, what tools are needed
- Chains: how to order (how many chains needed/length), brand, types
- Articles on component upgrades (brakes, shifters, derailleurs, etc)
- Common accessories: what has worked well (lights, racks, bags, pedals, mirrors, etc)

- Arizona Whip lighted flagpole

- Tactical Flashlights for lighting system

Chainlines for 2 wheeled ‘bents

Not to leave the 2 wheelers out of the collection, here are some chain lines of two wheel recumbents.

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Says Bruce: Stephen (tennbent) and I wanted to eliminate the inherent problems on his Optima Baron that also exist with the chainlines on a lot of mid and low racers. The picture above shows the chain crossover between idlers.

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The picture above shows the revised chainline, with crossover issue resolved. First, we wanted to clear the front tire/fork, and also to eliminate any chain cross-overs. We also did some other minor chainline mods to clean up the line. I won’t go into all of the details of HOW we did this, but the pics show the results. And, it works quite well. Stephen says it quieted the whole chainline a lot.

Admittedly, the change added another small bend in the power chain line, which technically adds pedal effort, but Stephen says he can’t feel any extra effort, and most folks won’t either.  Maybe Lance Armstrong could feel it.  The extra bend is about what most trikes experience in chain line bend.  Bruce

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The picture above shows one wheelbase-version of the Musashi, with chain crossover problems.
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Another version of the Musashi, with chain crossover issues.

Chainlines, Idlers, and Tubes, oh my!

Chain lines on trikes seem to generate a lot of experimenting and novel approaches.  The pictures below show a bunch of different approaches to making a chainline quiet and efficient, on all Catrikes I believe.

Hopefully the creators of these setups or those who have tried similar ones will comment on the likely quietness and efficiency of each of these setups.  Send additional pics of chainlines of any type of bent, and I’ll post them.

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Above: Bruce’s Speed. Bruce says this is the cleanest, quietest, most efficient setup he has used.   

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Above: Dr. Duk’s version of chain tubes.  Says Bruce: “…shows the easiest, and best way to give the tubes the loosest float possible, and this is a good thing.”

Flying Tiger

Above: Flying Tiger’s version

Bruce's orange speedBruce’s orange Catrike.  “This is the overly complex, and expensive, chainline that I tried on two of my Speeds.  I had four goals for it:  lift the return chain higher off the ground, push the power chain under the front axle, raise everything above the bottom of the main frame tube, and eliminate all tubes.  It did all four quite well, but at the expense of expense and more noise.  Both trikes are back to a single tube on the return chain, with just some tape on top of the axle to protect against the power chain slap. ”

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another trike set up, by Jerry Mckee.

Bruce: “Jerry McKee’s is close, but the idlers should have been placed behind the front axle. Also, by pushing the power chain under the front axle, you alter the angle of the power chain to the der post and der. This can hurt the shifting, and at the least, it limits how small you can go on the small ring. I know this because on my Tony Trike, I couldn’t go smaller than a 30 tooth ring when I did this arrangement.”

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Above: John Rooker’s Expedition.   Says John: “I have the same setup on my present Trail.  This is simple, effective, quiet and costs almost nothing once you’ve purchased the return side idler.”

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Utah Trikes photo, on an Expedition.  “…just insanely wrong! All of the Expo’s cherished ground clearance is lost with that arrangement. That idler should have been placed in front of the axle, as Pat Franz has designed those clamp-ons to be placed.”

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Bruce’s opinion – “Photofinish’s setup is a good example of a common myth about chainlines, that running the return chain in a straight line gives less drag. Wrong! It increases the drag compared to a slightly curved tube run underneath. If you let the chain hang naturaly with no tube, it has no frictional drag, so what better way to “tube” it than to run it through a tube that follows it’s natural curve as much as possible. Ideally, if the tube’s curve matches the chain’s curve, the tube will not be supporting the chain at all, and therefore will not induce any drag. But, if you lift the chain up and run it through a straight tube above where it wants to hang naturally, the tube is then carrying all of the chain’s weight, and that creates a LOT of drag, not to mention more noise. It may look cool, but it will cost you in pedal effort and extra noise. If you look at the first pic of my Holey Spokes, the tube has been curved to match the natural droop of the return chain as close as possible. With generous flares, it is almost silent all the time.”

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Bruce’s Opinion – “pretty close to stock and about the best you can get. Quiet and efficient!”

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another one from Utah Trike

HP velocotech lg_chaintube_sideangle

Chain tube attachment by HP – Velotechnik, sold at Hostel Shoppe. A long spoke held under the idler bolt and tied to the tube as far along the tube as possible will allow the tube to move around as much as it needs to in reaction to chain movement, with very little restriction.  The longer the spoke, the more flex is would have.  

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Terracycle floating tube holder.  They also sell flared sections of chain tube.  Although the floating tube holder is cool, the bike has chain routing and crossover issues. Without tubes the chain would rub itself, causing it to “snag” on itself as the pin ends catch each other.  Also, the chain runs along the side of the fork, rubbing it almost constantly.  Even with a tube, the tube rubs the fork.  It also limits the turn radius, because the tire will rub the chain with very little turn input.  Bruce  

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PhattKat’s setup, from his blog. Note the attachment of both the power side tube and the return side tube to the idler.  These attachments look solid. Also full coverage of the chains, as shown below.  How does one keep a chain so clean!!??  My trike is a mess by comparison.

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Phatkatts chain tubes.

1949 Recumbent

This appears to be the precursor to so many fast recumbents, like the P-38.  This was a 1949 U.S. patent to an inventor named Fries.

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Tadpole Trike, rear wheel steering, front wheel drive, 1950s.

I’m guessing this cool little tadpole trike is from the 1950s, judging by the stylin’ hairdo.  This photo from the site “Modern Mechanix, where “yesterday’s tomorrow is today.”

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Tadpole Trike for cargo

Here is an interesting tadpole (two wheels in the front) tricycle, from 1942, which was used to deliver aircraft parts from one part of the North American Aviation factory to another part of the factory.

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Joules, the cycling robot

Specifically, Joules is a robotic stoker for your tandem bike, when you are riding solo on a tandem.

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This project definitely has a steam punk flair, and combines some art, whimsy, and a good deal of engineering.  Joules was built by engineer Carl Morgan with his son, a former pro cycling racer.  The web page with more information on Joules is here.

Carl has a great U tube video also, linked below.